NR do infrastructure in Wales & Scotland, don't they? The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. Question for the designers. No.90021 in revised Railfreight "triple grey" livery, with Railfreight Distribution sector markings. for some form of co-branding. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. There are some good brands out there - gWr for example is a superb piece of marketing prowess, alongside the "friendly nostalgia" of the Famous Five advertising. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". But it invites an obvious question: what is to be done about it? Why not capitalize on it? It really does look dire. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lima class 47 D1574 British Rail Green Livery UNBOXED at the best online prices at eBay! At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. A railway works best as a single unit. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. As part of this work, the team engaged with industry through a formal call for evidence. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. At the moment, the TOC mostly differentiates this. [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? Goodbye. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. the handling/liability of pensions etc. Consisting of three shades of grey and thus known as "triple grey Railfreight", the livery included logos on the sides and cabs of locomotives indicating which sector they belonged to. A throwback to the 70s and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but I think. Great Northern split, with the Moorgate services becoming part of the London Overground brand and the Kings Lynn route becoming part of the LNER brand. You are using an out of date browser. [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. The Southern Region types worked mostly on the Charing Cross / Cannon Street - Hastings via Battle / Dover and Ramsgate routes and on the Victoria / London Bridge - Brighton / Littlehampton / Hastings via Eastbourne routes. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. Existing leases of stations to devolved transport authorities will continue. [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. I think it'll be more like East Coast (or whatever), the full height of the parallel tracks. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. It will become a single familiar brand with a bold new vision for passengers - of punctual services, simpler tickets. Roofs were Dark Grey and underframes originally brown, but later black. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Im unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, Id expect GBR to feature. The white paper does not specify whether the branding of devolved railways such as London Overground and Merseyrail will be affected.[7]. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. I don't see what's wrong with Rail Alphabet which is rather older than the 1980s - to be frank the branding shouts 60s, a period of branding I personally like but obviously that *is* personal - although you could just use Frutiger to keep the tie in with the other large national service, the NHS ( who used to use Rail Alphabet too ). For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and its xenophobic, imperialist undertones make me want to vomit. Eastfield TMD staff near Glasgow also embellished a few examples of the class 37/0's allocated to the depot with a lower bodyside white stripe in the mid-80s but were told to stop doing it and repaint the ones they'd already done back to the standard blue livery by the BR hierarchy. What is of 2020s Britain then? A commonly mistake to make, but one that can easily upset the locals! From July 1956 the Southern Region began using a 'coaching stock' green that was somewhat darker than the malachite green colour of the old Southern Railway and this extended to former Southern vehicles as well as Mk1 stock. JavaScript is disabled. I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. The smokebox, running plate, and running gear remained black, and the bufferbeam remained red. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. This page was last edited on 28 January 2023, at 18:28. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. I still think" Great British Railways" will be mostly likely be termed GBR, most of the time. But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? 3 Apr 2022 . Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. Privacy Noticeand Website Accessibility. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. The double arrow is still overused, though. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. A later version added a red stripe along the lower edge of the locomotive bodyside. You are using an out of date browser. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. Several Class 31 locomotives received white waist stripes, these being All Regions. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. Then theres the question of livery. Official Description. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. All other brands (SE, Southern, Thameslink, SWR, GWR, TfW, Merseyrail, Overground, Crossrail, GA, c2c, Scotrail) remain as they are. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. It still has to look good decades from now. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). Introduced originally by the Great Western Railway, the Travelling Post Office would set out from London in the dead of night and deliver . OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. I suspect not many. British Railways (BR), which from 1965 traded as British Rail, was a state-owned company that operated most of the overground rail transport in Great Britain from 1948 to 1997. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. GBR will absorb Network Rail, although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government. Budgets and delivery will be held at the local level as well as at the national level. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). It may not display this or other websites correctly. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. 1948 -. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. The FT reports: The reforms will still allow private companies to run services but they will instead work under a more prescriptive management contract, similar to the system in place on the London Overground.. Why do most people go for a car that is mostly all one single colour. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! One hallmark of the Governments approach to the constitutional struggle to hold the United Kingdom together has been a recognition that pro-Union policy is not simply a matter for a single department: it needs to run throughout the business of the State. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. Every TfW station I've been to are still ATW-branded (in fact, Hereford yesterday). Not everyone has a smartphone and when the PIS is not working, I find it good to know where we've stopped. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. Bare minimum, low effort. Swiss style would be nice, British society & culture wouldn't allow this as we for example don't have direct democracy as in Switzerland this is a very good example of how it can work, credit to Dispatcher on the Stour on Twitter. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. BRs own history says otherwise. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. Old does not necessarily = bad. Originally running from 1923 until 1948 when it became British Railway, LNER returned to the route of famous for the Flying Scotsman in 2018 when the . It'll be operated quite differently. What is wrong with different routes and regions having different liveries? Could GBRTT be right for you? The 25 kV electric locomotives were painted from new in a striking shade of bright blue which was known as "Electric Blue". [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. What possible negatives are there to none enthusiasts? It'll be operated quite differently. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. [15], Originally scheduled for May 2022,[14] a shortlist consisting Birmingham, Crewe, Derby, Doncaster, Newcastle upon Tyne, and York was announced in July 2022,[16] using the following criteria: alignment with "levelling up" objectives; connected and easy to get to; opportunities for GBR; railway heritage and links to the network; value for money; and public support. [8], Class 501 train in Rail Blue calls at Harrow and Wealdstone, Class 416 train in British Rail blue/grey livery calls at Dalston Kingsland station. [14] While this livery had much in common with the "Large Logo" version of Rail Blue livery, including the yellow cabs and larger logo and numbers on the bodyside, the main colour was grey rather than blue. The special saloons and a few other special coaches were also repainted in chocolate and cream but regular former GWR coaches carried maroon. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? You also get a more legible and cohesive transport system. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? They retained this livery for some years, before being painted in Rail Blue when that became the norm. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. In all of your concepts the Rail Symbol (double-arrow) is far too large for the accompanying lettering, if you're looking to be guided by the original design rules. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. It's a given that there will be brands underneath GBR - if there weren't, it would make travelling pretty complicated. [14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. Instead, I just added an icon next to the full text and removed it from the main station name. It was formed from the nationalisation of the Big Four British railway companies, and was privatised in stages between 1994 and 1997. But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. It's the name of the island ffs. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. It looks like BR. [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. Or the awful corporate blue BR? [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. "Great" means "large", not "very good". I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . JavaScript is disabled. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. for some form of co-branding. How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. There have also been subtle font changes. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. In 1964, as part of a plan to develop a new corporate image for British Railways, a number of experiments were tried; Discussions on the livery for British Railways coaching stock in 1948 eventually settled on a network-wide two-tone livery of crimson and cream for corridor coaches, with all-over crimson being used for local, non-corridor stock. 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